Wednesday, 9 November 2011

The R.A.M.C.-Questions In The House Of Commons

When researching for this Blog, I find so many facts and figures about Tidworth. many are just not publishable because the facts stated cannot be verified, and some cannot be published because of copyright reasons. Today though, when I should have doing jobs allocated to me by my Leader(my wife) I stumbled upon a number of Questions concerning The R.A.M.C, raised in The House(of Commons) in 1920, which were answered by the then Secretary of State for War-Winston Churchill. The keen eyed amongst you will recognise the name of one questioner,Sir William Cheyne, the designer of the beloved Watson Cheyne Double Ended Dissector, 12.5cm or 18cm version. I have published just a few of the questions raised during 1920. They do not neccessarily appear in date order, for which I hope you will excuse me. I found it quite interesting that postings back then could last for up to 10 years, rather than how they are managed these days.
                                           
ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS (OFFICERS IN INDIA).
HC Deb 01 March 1920 vol 126 cc50-1W 50W
Lieut.-Colonel BUCKLEY
asked the Secretary of State for War if officers of the Royal Army Medical Corps serving 51W in India are precluded from resigning their commissions; and, if so, what is the reason for this?
Instructions have been issued that Regular Royal Army Medical Corps Officers serving in India cannot be permitted to resign their commissions until the statutory date of the termination of the War. This step was rendered necessary by the fact that India is much below peace establishment, and that at present it is not possible to provide Regular Army Medical Corps Officers to replace those who were desirous of

ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS (INDIAN SERVICE).
HC Deb 01 March 1920 vol 126 cc43-4 44
105. Lieut.-Colonel BUCKLEY
asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware that many officers of the Royal Army Medical Corps serving in India have been in that country for nine or ten years and appear to have little prospect of relief; and if he will state what steps are being taken to expedite their relief?
                                                          
There are forty-one officers of the Royal Army Medical Corps still in India whose tour of service has expired, and every effort is being made to release them as other Regular officers become available. Twenty-four officers are under orders to proceed to India, and these will be employed for the relief of tour-expired officers and towards completing the permanent establishment of the Royal Army Medical Corps in India.
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TIDWORTH MILITARY HOSPITAL (MEDICAL OFFICER).
HC Deb 24 February 1920 vol 125 cc1517-8W
Major HENDERSON
asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that the medical officer employed as nose  specialist at Tidworth military hospital has very little surgical experience and that the nursing staff and patients in this hospital have no confidence in this officer's ability; and what steps he proposes to take in this matter?
I very much regret that the hon. and gallant Member should have placed this Question on the Order Paper and have thereby given currency to such unfounded complaints as to this medical officer's professional capacity. I find, on enquiry, that he had three years' experience in oral surgery before joining the Royal Army Medical Corps, being resident house surgeon at a general infirmary and later having sole charge of all such patients in the hospital. Since joining the Royal Army Medical Corps in 1915, he has been employed almost entirely on nose and throat cases, both at home and abroad. He has done excellent work as a nose and throat specialist since being appointed to Tidworth Hospital. His commanding officer considers him very able, and is of the opinion that he has the entire confidence of his patients.
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Wot? No Chippie!!
TIDWORTH CAMP.
HC Deb 16 April 1920 vol 127 c2002W 2002W
Lieut.-Colonel BELL
asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware that considerable feeling exists among the civil population of Tidworth owing to the refusal of the General Officer Commanding troops there to sanction the granting of a site for a fried-fish business; that, when an application for a site was made by a local resident, Mr. Beaver, it was refused on the grounds that there was no demand for such a business, and that thereupon a petition in favour was presented, signed by over 500 people of the neighbourhood, but that the application was refused again, no reason being as signed; and if he will inquire into the matter with a view to inducing the General Officer Commanding to reconsider his decision, and if there are valid reasons for maintaining the decision already given they may be made public?
I am making enquiries, and will let the hon. and gallant Member know the result as soon as possible
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ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS (MESOPOTAMIA).
HC Deb 02 March 1920 vol 126 c235 235
asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware of the grave discontent among the Special Reserve and Territorial Force officers of the Royal Army Medical Corps in Mesopotamia owing to the fact that they cannot get leave, some having spent two, or even three, hot seasons in Mesopotamia without leave; and, especially in view of the prospect of having to spend another hot season there, will he take steps to give relief to these men?
Many of these officers, in common with those of the Regular Royal Army Medical Corps and the Indian Medical Service, have leave due to them. This is a matter for the local military authorities, but I would remind my hon. and learned Friend that the granting of leave must necessarily interfere with the release of officers eligible for demobilisation. Regular officers of the Royal Army Medical Corps are being sent out as they become available to replace officers of the Special Reserve and Territorial Force whose demobilisation has been applied for.
May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether it is not also a fact that the Coalition is going through a hot season?
 Below is an article from Wikipedia about Sir William Cheyne.
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Sir William Cheyne, Bt

Sir William as an older man
Born14 December 1852
Hobart, Tasmania
Died19 April 1932
NationalityUnited Kingdom
Fieldsbacteriology
Sir William Watson Cheyne, 1st Baronet KCMG CB FRCS FRS[1] (14 December 1852 – 19 April 1932) was a British surgeon and bacteriologist, who pioneered the use of antiseptical surgical methods in the United Kingdom, as well as abdominal surgery.
Cheyne was born at sea off Hobart, Tasmania. He came from a humble background. His father, Andrew Cheyne, was a captain in the mercantile marine from Ollaberry, Shetland. His mother Eliza, the daughter of the Rev. William Watson, died in 1856, leaving Willam Cheyne to be brought up by his grandfather, the Rev. William Watson, and latterly by his aunt and uncle-in-law,[2] in Fetlar. In 1864 he was sent to attend Aberdeen Grammar School until 1868, when he went to King's College, Aberdeen, studying Greek, Latin, English, and Mathematics. By 1870 his uncle and aunt had desired him to be trained for the church, but as his father, his own inclination was for the sea. With the idea that if he became a doctor he could join the navy, he entered the University of Edinburgh where to study medicine in May 1871.[3] He received degrees in surgery and medicine from there in 1875.
Cheyne became the house surgeon to Joseph Lister, the British founder of antiseptic medicine, in 1876. Bacteriology had been much researched in France and Germany in the 1870s and 80s, but little work was done in the field in Britain. Lister was one of the few pioneers of its study in Britain. In 1877, the two took positions at King's College Hospital, where Cheyne served as an assistant surgeon, and later as surgeon from 1880 to 1917 and also as a professor of surgery from 1891 to 1917. He was a devoted follower of Lister and his antiseptic surgical methods. Cheyne was greatly inspired by the work of German bacteriologist Robert Koch, and had his work Untersuchungen über die Aetiologie der Wundinfenktionskrankheiten (1878) translated for the New Sydenham Society in 1880, which greatly enhanced the acceptance of bacteriology in Britain.[3] He had a work published in 1882, Antiseptic Surgery: Its Principles, Practice, History and Results, and later in 1885 a book, Lister and His Achievements. The work he did in his early career on bacteria and preventative medicine was highly influenced by Koch, and in Spring 1886, Cheyne visited Koch's laboratory in Berlin and studied his methods.[4] He undertook many trials on giving doses of tuberculin. He reported his findings to the RMCS in April 1891. He found that giving repeated doses improves the conditions of patients, but rarely acts as a cure. His paper was recognized as the first important contribution to the topic in Britain.[5] He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1894.
Cheyne served as a consulting surgeon for the British military in South Africa from 1900 to 1901. In 1910 he was made the Honorary Surgeon-in-Ordinary to King George V. With the outbreak of world War I he became a consulting surgeon to the Royal Navy in 1914, and in 1915 was for a short time the temporary surgeon general, RN. He was later made Surgeon Rear-Admiral and KCMG.[3] From 1914 to 1916, he served as President of the Royal College of Surgeons of England, and in 1924 he was awarded the inaugural Lister Medal for his contributions to surgical science.[3] The following year, he delivered the first Lister Memorial Lecture.[6]
He was made a baronet in 1908, and having retired from active practice, he was elected in 1917 as a Unionist Member of Parliament (MP) for Edinburgh and St Andrews Universities[7] and for the Combined Scottish Universities in 1918, holding the seat until he stepped down at the 1922 general election.[8] He was appointed as Lord Lieutenant of Orkney and Shetland in 1919. Cheyne left London for good in 1922 and retired to Fetlar and resigned his position as lord lieutenant in 1930. He died in 1932 at Fetlar after a prolonged illness.[3]

[edit] Works

  • Antiseptic Surgery: Its Principles, Practice, History and Results (1882)
  • Lister and His Achievements (1885)
  • Manual of the Antiseptic Treatment of Wounds (1885)
  • Manual of Surgical Treatment, 7 vol. (1899–1903; with F. Burghard)

[edit] Notes

  1. ^ b., W. (1932). "Sir William Watson Cheyne, Baronet. 1852-1932". Obituary Notices of Fellows of the Royal Society 1: 26. doi:10.1098/rsbm.1932.0007.  edit
  2. ^ "Sir William Watson Cheyne" watson-cheyne.com/swintro.htm. Retrieved 1 May 2008
  3. ^ a b c d e W. B (December 1932). "Sir William Watson Cheyne, Baronet. 1852-1932". Obituary Notices of Fellows of the Royal Society 1 (1): 26–30. doi:10.1098/rsbm.1932.0007. 
  4. ^ "Cheyne, Sir William Watson, 1st Baronet." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2006.
  5. ^ Hunting, Penelope (1 January 2002). The History of the Royal Society of Medicine. RSM Press. p. 150. ISBN 1-85315-497-0. 
  6. ^ Lister and his Achievement, Sir William Watson Cheyne, 1925
  7. ^ Historical list of MPs: E (part 1)
  8. ^ Craig, F. W. S. (1983) [1969]. British parliamentary election results 1918-1949 (3rd ed.). Chichester: Parliamentary Research Services. ISBN 0-900178-06-X. 

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Parliament of the United Kingdom
Preceded by
Christopher Nicholson Johnston
Member of Parliament for Edinburgh & St Andrews Universities
1917 – 1918
Constituency abolished
New constituencyMember of Parliament for Combined Scottish Universities
1918 – 1922
With: Dugald Cowan
Sir Henry Craik
Succeeded by
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Sir Henry Craik
Sir George Berry
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Title last held by
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Lord Lieutenant of Orkney and Shetland
1919–1930
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Friday, 4 November 2011

Tidworth Tattoo.. .another year, different displays

You may remember that I put a video of a reahearsal for the Tidworth Tattoo some time ago. This time, they seem to have got past the dress rehearsal............sit back and enjoy the "real thing." because of the age of the reel, between 1920 and 1929, there is no sound. There is medical cover provided by the RAMC, but sadly the camer man must have missed them!!!!!

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Sunday, 23 October 2011

Mr Winston Churchill Visits Tidworth

Pathe NewsImage by World of Oddy via FlickrAnother Pathe News clip. This time from 1927, judging by the fact that there is no sound attached, the facility may not have been available then. Although it isn't a visit to the hospital, we do take pride on this site to include the history of our military colleagues who also served in Tidworth.

Hope you enjoy this look back at the Tank Tracks, when I served there the tank tracks were a popular walking area for yound soldiers and their girlfriends-something to with the seclusion I am led to believe!!
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Saturday, 22 October 2011

Thank You All

Writing a Blog sitting in a room in South East London can feel very lonely. (A big, Oh Bless Him! please)

What makes it all worth it is when you are able to see that the site has visitors, and from where they are viewing it. I must say a very sincere thank you to all of you who have visited, and also to those who have visited more than once. Below is a list of countries from wher visits have been registered. If I miss your, please forgive me, and let me know via the Comment button below.

Australia, Bulgaria, Brazil, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Canada, Cyprus, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Italy, India, Nigeria, New Zealand, Portugal, Pakistan, Romania, Russia, Spain, Singapore, Trinidad, United Kingdom and the USA.

Again, many thanks to you all.

If at any time you like something you see on the site, would you be kind enough to click on the +1 icon below. Many thanks,

Peter

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Tuesday, 18 October 2011

Former Colonel-In-Chief Visits Tidworth

As the site says, it is aimed at not just those of us lucky enough to have served in Tidworth Military Hospital. Below, I have added a link to a piece of film that was never formally released, of Our former Colonel-In-Chief, Her Majesty, The Queen Mother, visting Tidworth. On this occasion, Her Majesty was presenting New Colours to the Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment.

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Saturday, 15 October 2011

The Tidworth Tales

Canterbury had its' Chaucer when it came to the relating of tales. Tidworth, on the other hand, has its' Silkstone. The Silkstone in question is John Silkstone. As well as being a retired Medic and former Royal Artillery member, John is a published author with many memories of his days in Tidworth, which may coincide with your days there, as they do with mine.

Here then, are two recollections of days by gone by, at Tidworth Military Hospital, from the pen of John Silkman.

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UNOFFICIAL WORLD RECORD

Towards the end of 1962, I was asked to perform the ‘Last Offices’ on a patient that had passed away. I asked male nurse Tony Fry to give me a hand; I don’t think he’d seen a cadaver before, and was a little reluctant to assist.
After screening the bed, I showed Tony how we washed, shaved and prepare a body for burial. After washing the front, I ask Tony to give me a hand to turn the body over. Tony was still reluctant, but assisted in turning the body and as we did so, the body expelled some air from the lungs, thus making a groaning sound.
The great feat of Roger Bannister breaking the four minute mile in 1954 was nothing compared to the speed that Tony recorded that day.
On the 4th of December 1962, Tony and Jan Lord both sail on HMS Oxfordshire on its last troop sailing. Jan and some other QARANC nurses were on their way to BHM Gibraltar, while Tony was one of the medics on the round trip and returned to the Tidworth hospital after the voyage.
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AMBULANCE! WHAT AMBULANCE?

The winter of 1962/63 was very bad, with deep snow which was blown into high sided drifts by gale force winds.
One evening we received a call for an ambulance to collect a patient from Bulford Camp which was nine miles away. The ambulance was an old Military type known as a K9; it comprised of a three-ton chassis with a box top, and was about twelve feet in height and painted green with the usual Red Cross signs on the side.
There was a snowstorm blowing across the open country side between Tidworth and Bulford which caused snowdrifts of fifteen feet or more. About three miles outside of Tidworth, the civilian driver skidded off the road and into one of the drifts.
The driver and I decided that it was not safe for one of us to walk back alone for help, and so we tied ourselves together with bandages and wrapping ourselves in blankets we set off to walk back to the hospital.
The blankets helped to keep some of the cold out but soon became damp and heave with a collection of snow. My feet were cold but dry as I had my army boots on and the amount of polish that was brushed into the leather helped to keep them waterproof. The driver however, only had his shoes on and soon his feet were cold and wet. We struggled through the snow for nearly two hours just to walk the three miles back to the hospital. We have covered about three quarters of the distance and by this time the driver was in a bad state and could hardly walk. I discarded my blankets and carried him piggyback fashion with his blankets encasing us both.
Once back at the hospital, I had a hot bath and changed into dry clothes while the drive was admitted as a patient for overnight observations. When I returned to reception the REME were waiting for me to show them where the ambulance was.
We set off in their large Scammel recovery vehicle which was nice and warm within the cab. We travelled all the way to Bulford without see the ambulance. We turned around and slowly made our way back again. It was no good; the snow had buried this twelve foot green vehicle within a very short period of time. It was found three weeks later, and written off as being beyond repair.

Monday, 10 October 2011

Childs Play In Tidworth!!

I was idling away a few minutes earlier today, wondering what to do next in my otherwise extremely busy day which is normally spent just wondering what to do next!!

Eureka! I thought out loud and in so doing, spilt the cup of tea I was holding all over next doors cat-by jove, she can move when she wants to!!!!

I began thinking of my days in Tidworth and some of the stories I heard from the civilans I got to know-about the Tidworth Tattoo. Without further ado, I dug in my drawers and came up with the following. I hope you enjoy it.
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